Hello, I'm new to the forum. I have a 1500 installed for two heating seasons now and absolutely love it. We have a 1970s built somewhat efficient 2000sf raised ranch and easily get 24 hour of heat from a 2-3 hour burn and sometimes up to 48 hours between burns. Our heatload is low, averaging 15kbtu/hr during normal temps(30F) up to a max recorded 50kbtu/hr at single digit temps. (I've kept a spreadsheet of 2 years of data with burn-rate, temp, runtime, etc). Our neighbors (all woodburners) can't believe how little wood we use compared to their woodstoves.
Our town is now looking to ban all new wood boilers mostly due to a couple very visible 'outhouse' wood-smokers of archiac 'load n smolder' design. Of course the building officials and town council know nothing about gassfiers, or burn-n-store, and are just responding to the perception of all boilers must be banned.
Where can I find emissions and efficiency testing reports? Are there any presentation materials available from Dectra or distributors for use in town meetings or to distribute to our building officials? Thanks!
This is a fantastic question! Let me try to give you a fantastic answer.
There has been a rise in small communities looking at banning wood burning as a way of combating the problems of "dirty burners". The problems are very real, and in most cases, do need to be addressed. The question is how to deal with the problem and not throw out viable, economic, and environmentally freindly alternatives.
"Dirty burners" have sold well for some 30 years due to the low initial cost in manufacturing poorly designed units. As wood burning has become more popular to combat rising heating costs, it's become more and more clear to most people that these are very inefficient, of poor quality, and use a large amount of wood, most of which ends up in the air as particulate emissions.
There are, however, high-quality, efficient, clean-burning alternatives that do not cause the same problems, and do in-fact provide some great benefits.
There are several reasons not to ban wood heating:
There are a number of ways to address the problems of "dirty burners" without losing the benefits of using wood for heating:
The best and easiest approach to deal with "dirty burners" between now and 2010, is not to ban all wood burning units (including the clean and efficient ones available now), but to educate the community and potential buyers on the available technologies. This, combined with complaint driven nuisance laws, can manage the problem in the short term.
Hope this helps.
SwampYankee - this is something that every wood heat appliance manufacturer is going to have to provide pretty soon. Central Boiler has made available a "model" zoning ordinance for use in public planning relating to outdoor wood burning furnaces. I don't know if it has been used much or at all, but they are working hard to protect their interests. I suspect that Dectra and other clean burning furnace/boiler manufacturers will have something to offer, hopefully soon.
The GARN has a Warnock-Hersey certification, but I do not believe it addresses emissions, just heat input and efficiency ratings. I hope someone corrects me or expands on this if I am incorrect or incomplete.
My local township also just adopted (November 2008) an ordinance restricting the installation of outdoow wood heating appliances. It basically uses setback distances as a means of restricting their installation to large parcels (at least 2 acres) and imposes some rediculous stack height requirements. I was at the meeting where it was adopted, and I am grandfathered as my GARN was purchased before the ordinance took effect (I just have to register it). However, I did query the board of supervisors about their knowledge regarding high efficiency gasification and secondary combustion type units like the GARN. They were ignorant of their function, but the board was receptive to petitions by applicants that seek a variance from the zoning based on "new technology" that makes the operation of the wood burning furnaces "tolerable". The low down is, the local officials are tired of complaints and dealing with whining residents. Whether or not they have a valid claim, eliminating the "problem" through local zoning is easier than dealing with the issue. Just my local political perspective.
By 2010, all units sold in the US will have to meet emissions standards. The problem for most local communities is what to do in the meantime.
We do not have a "model" regulation or ordinance because things vary from state to state and region to region. Instead we've been advocating either early adoption of the emission standards or the creation of a nuisance law. Both would require the consumer to know what they were buying before getting it.
A nuisance law that resulted in a fine and/or shut down after some number of neighbor complaints would mean the buyer would need to look at emissions and talk with thier neighbors. Early adoption of emission limits would require them to show that the unit is clean burning before installing it.
Some communities, like Jim's, adopt regulations to try to contain the problem using set-backs and stack height regulations. These can be good at mitigating some of the problems, but they don't address the core issue of encouraging clean burning. Stack Heights in particular are not at all effective. You can read our article on stack height regulation on our resources page.
We've been advocating regulation for decades in order to keep the "dirty burners" from ruining the reputation of wood burning units, and to put a stop to the unregulated and outrageous claims of some of the less scrupulous manufacturers - including one who claimed their units were over 100% efficient!
WK, UL, and CSA listings are safety listings and not related to efficiency and emissions. We strongly encourage all consumers to ask for independently verified test results.
Depending on your circumstances, your best resource might be to show your local officials your GARN unit in action. There is nothing like a hands-on demonstration to show that clean burning is possible.
Jim and Greg,
Thank you for your replies to this question! I will prepare an information package to share with the building official and town council. I would think the best way to deal with the complaints in the town is to focus them towards the problem units, not all of them. Honestly, I would be pretty upset if I lived next to a smoky system myself watching the owner throw in green wood and who knows what else in there.
BTW, around here 2 acres is a small lot. The problem boilers in town are on 10 acre + lots. The planning board recommended the rule after repeated complaints on one particular horribly smoky boiler. They have a tall stack and meet reasonable setbacks, but still are stinking up the area.
Will Garn be tested to the EPA Tier 2 program? I thought I saw something that Dectra did not participate in the phase1 voluntary testing program because of the test procedure.. has this changed for phase 2?
Also, where would I find the results for the emissions test you mentioned above? I'd like to have that available for the building officials.
Thanks!
GARN units will be tested in Tier 2. The only reason we haven't been tested under the current EPA testing protocol is that the test cannot be done for units like ours. The final ASTM test standard, which EPA will accept, includes procedures for testing units like the GARN units. That should be approved in the next few months.
We do not anticipate any problem at all meeting the emissions numbers. In fact the limits established for wood units were partially based on our results from the 2006 testing.
Let me know if you need anything else to help in your presentation.
That is great news, Greg. I look forward to seeing those results. I also would bet a burger that Decta will be putting those new robotic welders into high gear once those data are published and promoted (hint hint)
You mentioned testing done in 2006. What testing was done?
This info is qouted from the back page of the Garn brochure. If it were me I would put it in bold faced print on the front.
"On January 29,2007 the US EPA issued Phase 1 emission guidleines for outdoor wood fired hydronic heaters (commonly known a outdoor wood fired boilers). The EPA phase 1 emission limit is .600 pounds of particulate emission per one million BTU input. Preliminary testing of a Garn WHS unit indicates an emission level of .297 pounds of particulate emissions per one million BTU input, 51% cleaner than EPA guidelines. In addition, overall efficiency was found to be 74.5% higher heating valvue basis (84% lower heating value basis)." ...... end of quote.
Further miscellaneous ramblings and observations.......
I am aware of the testing that Greg made reference to regarding OWB's and can say that I have heard from a person I know in the Michigan DEQ/air quality division, that the efficiency numbers ranged from 28-41% for those type units. Dismal to say the least. There are some downdraft, gasifying type boilers on the market that will hit the same range or even a bit better than a Garn but that is only under steady load conditions (constant fire). Actual efficiency drops off when those units cycle to low fire or off (idle). The main key to the Garn's efficiency is the utterly simple principle that it operates under and that is , burn all the wood load in a single continuous burn. Such a burn is only possible with adequate heat storage capability. This, the Garn has in spades. On the european style downdraft gasifiers (EKO, Tarm, Econoburn etc. ) storage has to be added and many of the manufacturers of those type products strongly recommend the addition of a minimum of 500 gallons. I can say from experience with those types of boilers that storage is mandatory. I would not install one without at minimum of at least 800 gallons to "hold the heat" from the boiler. Anything less will not get you through a full burn on even the smallest models which fire at 80-100,000 BTU's. The Garn's ability to store heat as an integral part of the unit's design is unique in the wood/bio-mass industry as far as I know and there is no other princple of operation that works as well for a wood fired system.
I was doing some reading on European websites for Viessmann and Froling (very high end/high tech wood boilers) and discovered that in Europe, a person burning wood must incorporate heat storage in the system in order to qualify for energy credits in the European Union. They take efficiency very seriously over there and that previously stated fact should tell all of us just how important BTU storage is to the overall function of any wood burner.
My own field testing has shown that a Garn will typically run in the 78-83% efficiency range depnding on the amount of fuel load and moisture content of the wood. (Measured with a Testo combustion analyzer). Flue outlet temps typically run in the 250-340* (not the Garn thermometer) range depending on fuel and where the load is in the burn cycle. By comparison, I have measured exhaust gas temps on many OWB's that exceed 1,000*F at full fire. Measured efficiency on those units (and I won't name names here) was below 40%. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that if you are expelling exhaust temps in that range you are wasting a substantial amount of heat, not to mention the additional effort in handling all that extra wood.
Greg,
Thanks for the useful info. My community has been enforcing burn bans lately due to pressure from the EPA on the recently enacted PM 2.5 standards. However, they are still permitting the use of pellet stoves during bans.
Do you have any comparative data between Garn emissions and pellet stoves that I could present to my City enforcement folks? And will the 2010 standards overlap with the PM 2.5 standards in any way?
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Any new word on how the Garn tests relative to phase 2? I get confused when the numbers change based on million BTU input and then change to million BTU output. My state (RI) is developing regs which reference EPA phase 2 as being 0.32 pounds per million BTU output. The regs also have wording to the effect of "in addition, within each of the burn rate categories as established in EPA test method 28, no individual test run shall exceed 18 grams per hour". There is a separate bill being introduced that attempts to make emissions limits retroactive (along with ridiculous set back and stack height requirements). So I need to know what sort of footing I'm on when I speak to my state and elected officials.
I'll second the request on the Garn emissions #s for phase 2. Our town passed an ordinance last winter requiring phase 2 for new installations. Our garn was in place before the ordinance but got concerned last week with RI H7064 discussing retroactively banning even a Garn. Overall our local reg is quite fair but the proposed state bill definitely is not! I spoke with and wrote our house rep (as did many others) and this is his response:
"Friends, Thank you for contacting me regarding bill 7064 on Outdoor HydronicHeaters. I didn't attend the hearing on this bill yesterday. The room waspacked.However, today I spoke with the prime sponsor of the bill, Rep. RayGallison. He has no intention of hurting people who have already bought andinstalled these heaters. The bill is being held, and will be considerablyre-worked.Rep. Gallison's purpose, which we can probably all support, is to protectair quality. We have all heard horror stories of the type of garbage somepeople have put in these heaters. So I wouldn't be surprised if a revisedversion of the bill includes restrictions on what can be burned and perhapsminimum heights for chimneys. Then there may be restrictions on what typeof burners are acceptable for future installations.Regards,"
That said, When will the EPA Phase 2 numbers be published for the Garn? I've understand we can beat the .32 lb/mbtu but not the 15/18 grams/hour due to its burn/store design.
btw the RI bill is being disussed over at hearth.com http://www.hearth.com/econtent/index.php/forums/viewthread/52096/
Hello all - First time poster and long time researcher on this site and others. I live in Washington State which currently bans OWB and I am doing a cut and paste of the applicable reg with link to the state site.
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What are outdoor wood-fired boilers (OWBs)?
OWBs are wood-fired water heaters that are located outdoors or are separated from the space being heated. The fires in the large fire boxes heat water that is circulated into the home through underground pipes. The energy may be used to heat houses, shops, domestic hot water, greenhouses, swimming pools and spas. Indoor installed boilers are a variation of an OWB. They are in the same legal category as OWBs, and subject to the same regulations.
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Are any OWBs legal in Washington?
Not at this time. However, Ecology is willing to consider allowing OWBs to be sold in Washington if the manufacturers can prove they meet Washington's standards. To prove an OWB meets Washington's standards, a manufacturer must:
The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency has a voluntary program for manufacturers of outdoor wood-fired boilers. Boilers that are accepted into this program meet stricter guidelines and pollute less. However, even these boilers pollute too much to be allowed in Washington. You can find more information on this program at http://www.epa.gov/burnwise/participation.html#hydronic
LINK to WA State Site - http://www.ecy.wa.gov/programs/air/AOP_Permits/Boiler/Outdoor_Boilers_home.html
Greg posted above ""GARN WHS units tested to .297 lbs per million BTU input (much cleaner than the standard) with an overall efficiency of 75.4%."" How does this compare with 4.5g per hour?
I am considering the purchase of a large home (5000 plus) here in Eastern Washington that already has hot water baseboard heat on 10 acres (lots of ponderosa pine). I was very excited about the possibility of getting a Garn to heat the residence and possibly two outbuildings (to @ 50 degrees). Much to my irritation, I finally found the Washington State ban on what they deem to be OWB.
I can't figure out the math but 4.5g seems to be ridiculously low for any large wood burning appliance but this figure applies to hourly emissions. After watching the video and reading the forums is a Garn in the ballpark? Assuming I had a large storage capacity and required 2 burns per day could I say 4 hours of burn time at X grams per hour is less than continuous use for 24 hours for a unit without large storage capacity? If you rounded up to 5 hours a day operation the allowable emissions of fine particles would be less than one ounce. Is this a standard that anyone can breach?
I am also curious about the possibility of filtration on a unit like a Garn that could capture or further reduce fine particle emissions. Like it or not, talking and sounding "green" is a great way to gain acceptance of a product, especially with politicians. There is a tremendous market for wood heat in many states and it seems like a worthwhile venture for a company like yours to "be the first" to meet the standards. Any thoughts or help would be appreciated! Looks like a great product and I would love to buy one!
Todd, your math looks about right. The 4.5g per hour is the current EPA limit for woodstoves. Sounds like some legislator in WA thought they were being smart and decided to apply the woodstove standard to OWB. Problem is, it does not allow for BTU output or thermal storage. To heat a 5000 sf house you would probably need 3-4 woodstove burning continuously. Even if they only produce 2g/hr each, that is still close to 200g per day. Contrast with an OWB that meets the EPA phase 2 limits for OWB which is 18g/hr (still waiting to see if the Garn can meet this) and uses thermal storage. A six hour burn (typical Garn burn is 4 - 6 hrs once a day) will emit about half the particulates of the woodstoves (108g). Coincidently 108/24 = 4.5! Too bad it doesn't sound like your regs allow averaging over a 24 hr period. That said, I think there are some wood pellet OWB that can meet the 4.5 g/hr standard, but nothing that burns cordwood.